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I'm Christa Tippett. Up next, my unedited conversation with Brother Guy Consolmanio

and the late Father George Coin of the Vatican Observatory. He died in February 2020,

and there's a shorter, produced version of this wherever you found this podcast.

People said they had a good time, that you paused at the right place. Right, I did.

And I said, I didn't say that. He did. Right. Excellent. I forget there was something about science

fiction. It was awful, but yes. Hello. Hello. Yes. Yes. You're talking about science fiction.

I love science fiction too. Right. So, okay.

So, okay. George is going up to St. Paul in a couple of weeks. Oh.

And I've got a friend, Greg Heter, who has the Dreamhaven bookstore up there.

Oh. In Minnesota? In Minnesota. St. Paul, Minneapolis. How to know exactly where it is? I've

never been there. I just imagined your conventions. I'm not familiar with that bookstore.

Um, are you Nancy? I'm Christa. I'm going to hold it. Yes. Oh, you're the

you do. Okay. Great. Hello. You know, you are in St. Paul, aren't you? I am in St. Paul.

Yes. Have your snow boots on? Well, I did when I walked in this morning. Yes. Okay.

Well, it's only going to be 68 degrees here today. Don't rub it in.

You know, I had married to Rhea Russell on the show, but I've heard that at least one of you

I read somewhere. I didn't like her because that book is too sober to note lacking in humor.

Which book? The Sparrow? The Sparrow? Yeah. Oh, we had a long email correspondence myself in Maria.

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