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On Being with Krista Tippett

[Unedited] Arthur Zajonc and Michael McCullough

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2015

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Arthur Zajonc is president of the Mind and Life Institute. He is emeritus professor of physics at Amherst College, where he taught from 1978 to 2012. His books include “Meditation as Contemplative Inquiry: When Knowing Becomes Love” and “The Heart of Higher Education: A Call to Renewal.” Michael McCullough is professor of psychology at the University of Miami, where he directs the Evolution and Human Behavior Laboratory. He’s the author of “Beyond Revenge: The Evolution of the Forgiveness Instinct.” This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Arthur Zajonc + Michael McCullough — Mind and Morality: A Dialogue.” Find more at onbeing.org.

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0:00.0

This is on Beings on Heart Cuts.

0:02.0

I'm Krista Tippett.

0:03.4

You're listening to my unedited conversation

0:05.8

with physicist and contemplative Arthur Zients

0:09.0

and research psychologist Michael McCullough.

0:11.6

Download the MP3 of our produced show at on beings.org.

0:16.0

Applause

0:25.9

Okay. Oh, so you want us to speak among ourselves?

0:34.5

Except you can hear us.

0:41.9

So we're going to have a conversation up here for maybe...

0:47.9

I know, but everybody can hear me anyway.

0:51.6

I'm not going to pretend.

0:53.6

Sorry?

0:54.8

Yeah.

0:56.4

Okay. There we are.

0:59.2

Now you can officially hear me.

1:03.2

We're going to have a conversation up here for 45, 50 minutes.

1:09.0

Then we will open it up to you.

1:10.9

Invite your questions and comments.

1:13.4

Have some more back and forth.

1:14.7

And then we'll come back to the three of us in finish up.

1:19.0

We are recording this for possible broadcast,

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