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On Being with Krista Tippett

[Unedited] Alison Gopnik with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2020

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

Alison Gopnik understands babies and children as the R&D division of humanity. From her cognitive science lab at the University of California, -Berkeley, she investigates the “evolutionary paradox” of the long human childhood. When she first trained in philosophy and developmental psychology, the minds of children were treated as blank slates. But her research is helping us see how even the most mundane facts of a toddler or a teenager — from fantasy play to rebelliousness — tell us what it means to be human.

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0:00.0

Support for on-being with Christa Tippett comes from the Fetzer Institute helping build the spiritual foundation for a loving world.

0:07.0

Fetzer envisions a world that embraces love as a guiding principle and animating force for our lives.

0:13.0

A powerful love that helps us live in sacred relationship with ourselves, others, and the natural world.

0:19.0

Learn more by visiting Fetzer.org.

0:22.0

I'm Christa Tippett.

0:24.0

Next, my unedited conversation with cognitive scientist and child psychology professor, Alison Gopnick.

0:31.0

There is a shorter, produced version of this wherever you found this podcast.

0:36.0

Yeah, very good to talk to you.

0:39.0

I don't know if you're aware that I interviewed your wonderful brother.

0:42.0

In fact, I was going to say I really loved that interview.

0:47.0

I mean, of course, Adam does a lot of interviews and I do a lot of interviews.

0:50.0

There are a lot of them out there, but I particularly liked that one.

0:55.0

I did too. He's a fantastic person and he's been talking to me about you forever.

1:00.0

I don't know, it just felt like time.

1:03.0

Good.

1:04.0

I really loved the interview you did with Ezra Klein.

1:08.0

Yeah, that was another funny one where we ended up, Adam and I ended up doing back-to-back interviews to be independent of one another.

1:15.0

I don't think that people even realized we were related.

1:18.0

No, well, I had actually, after I got Adam's last book, I had pinged Ezra and said, I think this is great.

1:26.0

And then I heard him when he interviewed you saying that he had no idea that you were Adam's sister when he went into it.

1:32.0

Yeah, it's okay.

1:33.0

Yeah, it's so good to see all of them.

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