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Uneasy Money: Why the Aave DAO Collapse Could Be Good for Aave

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2026

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

The Aave DAO collapsed — but might that be good for Aave? (But bad for the token?) Plus, how the feud between the U.S. government and Anthropic helped the AI company. Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠⁠⁠Fuse: The Energy Network ⁠⁠ – Shift your energy use and earn rewards. ⁠⁠⁠MultiChain Advisors -⁠⁠⁠ The Growth & Capital Markets Partner You Need The Aave civil war appears to be at an end with key members of the DAO rage quitting and leaving Aave Labs standing as the sole protocol contributor.  Uneasy Money hosts Kain Warwick, Luca Netz, and Taylor Monahan explain why the Aave DAO's messy collapse is a death knell for the DAO system. Ironically, they wonder — could this be good for Aave, but bad for the token? The crew also wades into ZachXBT's recent Axiom investigation and how the on-chain detective has become “a vigilante for hire.”  They also cover all the insider trading claims and fights around prediction markets involving the Iran War and Mr. Beast, and “Kalshi jail.” Kain suspects another reason for the U.S. government's rift with Anthropic. Luca, an Anthropic investor, says he wished Dario had taken the government's deal, but that Sam Altman needs to “take the Zuck playbook.” Meanwhile, is Anthropic nerfing OpenClaw? Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Links: Unchained: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Aave Governance Fight Escalates Ahead of $51 Million Funding Vote Uneasy Money: Why the AI Singularity May Already Be Out of Our Hands How Aave Labs and the DAO Should Split Ownership of the Brand – Uneasy Money ZachXBT Alleges Axiom Employee Misused Internal Data Uneasy Money: Why Peter Steinberger and Non-Crypto People Hate the Crypto Mob Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, I'm Kane Warwick and welcome to Uneasy Money because of what happens on chain never stays on chain.

0:06.0

I'm here with my co-host Taylor Monaghan security expert and Lucan Net CEO of Pudgy Penguins.

0:12.0

We're going to dive in into a minute, but one quick thing before we start, nothing you are here on uneasy money is financial advice.

0:18.0

We're just three builders talking about what's happening on chain and we want you to always do your own research before aping in. You can find all our

0:24.9

disclosures at UnchainCrypto.com slash uneasy money. Before we begin, here's a word from the sponsors

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1:10.5

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1:32.4

slash bits and bits. All right. Hey, everyone. Our first segment, as it has been now, I think,

1:41.7

for maybe the last month or so, is going to be on AVE governance.

1:47.0

Another core contributor of the ABE Dow has rage quit, I guess,

1:54.6

is probably the best way of putting it.

1:57.0

So we actually had Mark Zeller on the show a few weeks ago, who is, I guess, the spiritual

2:05.7

leader, actual leader of the Abe Chan initiative.

2:09.2

And they've said that they will wind down their work with AVEi and potentially even

2:14.7

wind down their work completely.

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