Uneasy Money: How the Increasingly Better AI Agents Are Being Used Onchain

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Laura Shin

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🗓️ 7 February 2026

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Thank you to our sponsors! Fuse: The Energy Network MultiChain Advisors Vitalik Buterin just dropped a bombshell: the L2 vision no longer makes sense. Meanwhile, AI coding agents are going parabolic. In this monster episode of Uneasy Money, Ethereum Foundation Head of Developer Growth Austin Griffith and Optimism co-founder Karl Floersch join hosts Kain Warwick and Taylor Monahan to unpack the reasoning behind Vitalik's remarks and debate whether Ethereum needs L2s to pull institutions. They also take a deep dive into the OpenClaw and Moltbook craze and Austin shares how he has different agents running on different machines, including one that texts his wife good morning everyday. Is “AI the new UI?” Hosts: Kain Warwick, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix Taylor Monahan, Security Expert, Metamask Guests: Austin Griffith, AI Lead at Ethereum Foundation Karl Floersh, CTO of OP Labs Links: Vitalik Rethinks Ethereum’s L2 Playbook, Calls for Shift Toward Native Rollups How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I gave it a Meta Mask. I put money in the Meta Mask.
0:02.8	That sounds great. That sounds like it's going to go well for us.
0:05.5	Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said, go make this transaction. And it couldn't figure out how to get the Meta Mask dialogue. He's like, I can't find the UI. Where is it? What's going on? It immediately was like, I'm going to get the private key out of Meta Mask and do this the real way. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
0:21.6	And I started saying stop, stop, stop, and it won't stop.
0:24.0	I have to, like, no, no, no, no, no.
0:21.6	And I start saying stop, stop, stop, and it won't stop.
0:23.6	I have to, like, go to the machine and like, I'm polling, you know, like, no, please, don't get the private key. Claudeb was like, bro, they blocked me and then they followed the link and then link and then open an issue on the GitHub and very politely pointed out that we had like illegitimate
0:39.0	blocked it and like made his arguments as to like why this was legit.
0:44.3	He like cited sources to like prove the legitimacy, which for the record, for the record, the human Austin, did what most humans do, which is the open accent was like,
0:55.3	Meta Mouse sucks!
0:56.8	Yeah, tag them.
0:57.8	Yep.
1:01.0	Hey, everyone, I'm Kane Warwick, and welcome to UnEasy Money, because what happens on chain
1:08.9	never stays on chain.
1:10.5	Unfortunately, Luca couldn't join us today, but I'm very excited because we have a couple of
1:15.1	extremely special guests.
1:17.0	I'm here with Taylor Security at Minamask.
1:20.0	And I've also got Austin, who I guess is claiming to fame as he's been doing crazy things
1:25.6	with AI agents on chain.
1:27.7	I also have Carl, the CTO of OP Labs.
1:30.6	So we are going to be getting in some L2 stuff, some clanker stuff.
1:35.4	It's going to be very fun.
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