For decades, archaeologists and biblical scholars have dreamed of seeing the city of Colossay excavated.

Well, quite amazingly, it's just beginning.

Colossay, of course, is the city at the heart of Paul's letter to the Colossians,

which we will unpack today with our guest back due to

popular demand. Dr. Clint Arnold is perhaps the world's foremost expert on the book of

Colossians. You've written the Word biblical commentary second edition, and for the record,

I've read about two-thirds of it. I worked through it. It's fascinating.

We had you on earlier to talk about spiritual warfare, which is prevalent in Colossians,

but you sent me these updates about the city of Colossi and the dig that is beginning

there. It was not on my radar at all. And immediately, Clint, I thought, we've got to talk

about this and bring it to our listeners and our viewers. So we're going to dive in, but thanks

for coming back and be willing to talk about this. Well, first of all, it's a real privilege

to be with you, Sean. And yeah, I'm pumped about this. I first visited the site of Colossian

in 1985, which 40 years ago.

That's 40 years ago. In the middle of my doctoral program. And I just hoped that someday they might excavate that site. And so many years have gone by. And this summer in July, excavation began.

And it's very exciting to see what the possibilities might be of discovery there.

So one of the updates you said, I mean, we're going to get into what it looks like now, what they expect to find, what an archaeological dig like this entails.

But in one of your updates, you described this as truly a historic moment.

Now, for somebody goes, come on, your scholar, this is an overstatement.

Why do you think this is really historic?

Well, one of the key things for us as Christians is we have two New Testament books that were written to Christians at that site.

We have Paul's letter to the Colossians. And then secondly, his letter to Philemon,

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