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🗓️ 7 February 2022
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Here's another psycho-educational episode to help you understand what you're working with. We've heard of the fight or flight response, even the freeze response but what about the fourth response - fawn? Here psychotherapist Katie McKenna breaks down the fawn response, which includes a lot of the behaviours, triggering anxiety, that you'll be familiar with, including people pleasing.
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1:03.2 | Hello, dear listener and welcome back to owning it the anxiety podcast with me, Caroline Forrin. |
1:06.4 | I am so thrilled to share this episode with you this week. |
1:10.0 | It is with an amazing psychotherapist called Katie McKenna. |
1:12.9 | She's Irish and we are talking about the fourth response, the fourth trauma response, which is Fawn. I've touched on this very, very |
1:19.5 | briefly in previous episodes, but here in this episode we go into it in really specific, great |
1:24.8 | detail and if anyone has ever struggled with people pleasing or saying |
1:29.2 | yes when you want to say no, or struggling to assert yourself, or feeling like you can't speak up or |
1:34.7 | you're afraid to appear a certain way, this is the episode for you. We unpack a lot and I hope you find |
1:40.0 | it as helpful as I did. I offer up myself as a guinea pig for Casey to help unpack. So thank you so |
1:46.2 | much for tuning in. Thank you as always for all of the feedback, the reviews, the likes, the shares. |
1:51.4 | Really appreciate it and yeah, enjoy. |
2:00.6 | Katie McKenna, thank you so much for joining me on owning it, the Anxiety Podcast. First of all, |
2:05.8 | welcome and how are you keeping? I'm really well. Thanks for having me on. It's a pleasure. |
2:10.2 | I was so happy when I got your email about coming on the podcast because you came to me with a topic. |
2:15.4 | So first of all, you are an accredited psychotherapist. Let's get that part known. And you came to me with a topic. So first of all, you are an accredited psychotherapist. |
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