Welcome to the Conversations, That Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris, and as my grandfather likes to say, things are getting crazier out there, are they not?

Council culture is on the move. I know a lake near me was renamed because it was named after I guess a

southern soldier in the Civil War. I didn't even know. Hardly anyone probably did.

There was a bird I noticed, Macounds or Macgowns, I think think pigeon or something maybe it was a finch but anyway

The guy who discovered it was also a soldier in the Civil War from the South so they of course they had to rename that people People are just oppressed looking at this bird, I guess.

And I don't know.

I mean, he's the one that discovered it.

So I mean, that's why it was named after him,

not because he fought in the war or something. It's getting silly guys. It's

really really getting silly out there. I don't know if you notice that Jim Wallace

now is in the crosshairs because he had deleted an article at Sojourners

written by a younger guy against the Catholic Church saying the Catholic

Church is racist and Jim Wallace is allies in the Catholic Church so he

deleted it and the young guy who wrote it called Jim Wallace is allies in the Catholic Church so he deleted it and the young

guy who wrote it called Jim Wallace this insult he's an old white man yeah so

Jim Wallace who's gone along with pretty much every liberal agenda. He's the quintessential

evangelical progressive. I mean I don't know why I would call him

evangelical. He's called himself that, that's why. But he's being eaten by the very thing he created.

His own monster is now coming and eating him.

And I think he's stepped down from being editor-in-chief or something.

He's still president, I don't know.

But, but Jim Wallace, the acid's eating him and the

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