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Understanding the Whistle-Blower

Radio Atlantic

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4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2019

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

As a CIA officer detailed to the White House, Congresswoman Elissa Slotkin is one of the few people to have done the same work as the whistle-blower. She joins Isaac Dovere to discuss that experience, how it led her to play a key role in starting the impeachment inquiry, and how she’s now explaining that decision of conscience to the pro-Trump district she represents. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You! Welcome to Radio Atlantic, I'm Isaac Dauver.

0:20.7

It all happened so quickly.

0:23.0

After three years of news about Russia and the Mother Report, an entirely new scandal made

0:27.3

impeachment a sudden reality.

0:29.7

Last Monday, as details of the whistleblower complaint emerged, the Washington Post published an

0:34.2

op-ed in which seven Democrats, all with national security backgrounds, came out in favor of

0:39.8

impeachment.

0:41.4

The next afternoon, not coincidentally, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

0:45.0

announced the beginning of the impeachment inquiry. This week we're talking

0:49.4

with one of those Democrats. time detailed to the White House. And it just so happens she worked on Ukraine

1:03.9

policy when she was at the Pentagon during the Obama presidency. I want to get her to

1:08.5

explain what's going on, what is supposed to happen in these situations, and why it was these actions by the

1:14.9

president which took her to yes on an impeachment inquiry. So after we talk

1:19.6

about what she saw that brought her to impeachment we're going to talk about how the politics have been playing out.

1:24.4

Slochen represents a very pro-Trump district in Michigan, a state which is going to be at the

1:29.2

center of the action for next year's presidential race.

1:32.4

So Congresswoman, thanks for being here on Radio Atlantic.

1:35.0

Thanks for having me.

1:37.0

So let's start with this.

1:38.0

You spent time as a CIA analyst detailed to the National Security Council on the White House. You work there under Bush and

1:44.5

Obama. So you're one of the few people who've done the kind of work that this whistleblower

1:48.8

did. So can you help us understand what that role is like? When you read the complaint, did you

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