Understanding the Masks we Wear (Satya Doyle Byock)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Lemonada Media

Education, Self-improvement

4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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“We’re in a time of masking and masks, whether we know it or not,” says psychotherapist Satya Doyle Byock. “And my hope is that us talking about it draws that into greater consciousness for people to make decisions about when to put them on and when to take them off.” Today, we’re talking about persona, in the sense of the masks we wear for various reasons (some beneficial, some nefarious). And, how, in becoming attached to the idea of authenticity and being in a rush to identify someone else or ourselves as inauthentic—we can really miss our mark. For the show notes, including sign-up links to the events that Satya and I will be doing together, head to my Substack. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Lemonada.
0:05.7	Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread.
0:09.1	Today I'm talking again to my pal, the Jungian psychotherapist, Sacha Doyle Bayak.
0:17.1	Hey there, it's Julia Louis Dreyfus.
0:20.0	I'm back with a new season of Wiser Than Me,
0:22.9	the show where I sit down with remarkable older women and soak up their stories,
0:28.8	their humor, and their hard-earned wisdom. Every conversation leaves me a little smarter and
0:35.1	definitely more inspired. And yes, I'm still calling my 91-year-old mom, Judy, to get her take on it all.
0:43.8	Wiser than me from Lemonade Media premieres November 12th, wherever you get your podcasts.
0:57.6	It's morning in New York.
0:58.5	Oh, God.
1:03.5	Hey, everybody. I'm Mandy Patinkin.
1:04.7	And I'm Catherine Grady.
1:08.9	And we have a new podcast. It's called Don't Listen to Us.
1:10.7	Many of you've asked for our advice. Tell me, what is wrong with you people? Don't Listen to Us. Many of you've asked for our advice.
1:13.7	Tell me, what is wrong with you people?
1:15.1	Don't listen to us.
1:18.2	Our Take It or Leave It Advice show is out every Wednesday,
1:23.0	premiering October 15th, host of pulling the thread.
1:38.9	On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here. My hope is that
1:46.0	these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seeds of awareness so that we might all
1:51.7	collectively learn and grow. Here is today's guest, psychotherapist Sotcha Doyle Bayock,
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