Hello, everyone. You're listening to Family Talk, a radio broadcasting ministry of the James

Dobson Family Institute. I'm Dr. James Dobson, and thank you for joining us for this program.

Well, welcome back to Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. On our last program, we began an enlightening conversation featuring Gary Bauer, our senior vice president of public policy here at the JDFI. He's also the host of the Defending Faith, Family, and Freedom podcast. And Gary's guest, Pastor Gary Hamrick, talking about his powerful new book called

Standing on the Edge of Eternity. Pastor Hamrick leads Cornerstone Chapel in Leesburg, Virginia,

and his insights into the Book of Revelation have helped countless believers understand this

often misunderstood portion of scripture. Now, during our first discussion on this topic,

Pastor Hamrick walked us through

the different approaches to interpreting Revelation and explained why he believes in a literal,

futuristic view of this prophetic book. He reminded us that Revelation isn't meant to scare us,

but actually to prepare us for what's ahead. It's God's final wake-up call to a world that

desperately needs salvation.

Now, on today's edition of Dr. James Dobson's family talk, we're continuing the conversation

featuring Pastor Gary Hamrick and Gary Bauer as Pastor Hamrick dives deeper into the signs

of the times, the two witnesses, and what believers should be doing as we wait for Christ's

return. His message is clear.

This is not the time to check out.

We must stay engaged in our culture, in our communities,

until Jesus comes again.

Now let's join Gary Bauer and his guest, Pastor Gary Hamrick,

for part two of this compelling discussion

on today's edition of Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk.

Well, we're back here for our second day with Pastor Gary Hamrick, the pastor of Cornerstone Chapel

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