What about bullies?

Perpetrators always feel that they're a victim first.

I had a bad day in a circumstance in which I was powerless and now I'm coming home and I need to get that out of me.

Apply that to bullying or even mass lecturer in psychiatry at the Yale School of Medicine, the

founder and co-creator of the Yale Collaborative for Motive Control Studies, and the developer of the behavioral addiction model of violence.

He researches violence prevention, motive control, revenge cravings, justice addiction,

non-justice studies, and mental health peer support services.

He takes a very, very interesting approach to an important topic of violence.

He created saving cane.org, which is an effort to save lives by offering support resources and compassion, not to the victims,

which of course he has all of those feelings for victims and survivors but to those

considering murder, terrorism, mass shootings, and that is so important because prevention is so important.

So I said those considering this

empathetic guest had the foresight to offer support

to assist people that are contemplating revenge or other tragic decisions

and to me that is very fascinating.

You had an interesting life experience.

I wish you would share that with people because I think we have different points in our lives that are

moments where we come to a precipice and we have to make decisions that become life altering. And you talk about a time in your final years of high school

when you say you were being bullied and some classmates it just infuriates me to even think about this, but they snuck onto your property and shot your beagle Paula.

And the police didn't do anything. Talk about your experience when that happened because I think that sets you on this path.

There's no doubt that it did in fact set me on this path that changed my life. I had two really big pivot points in my life and that was the first one Dr. Phil.

And just as you said I had been being harassed and bullied for several years through high school. I grew up in the in

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