Understanding Change Allowing Counseling
Conversations That Matter
Jon Harris
4.3 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 15 August 2022
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Rosaria Butterfield and Dr. Andrew Van Mol discuss how Christians should think about what is commonly referred to as "reparative therapy."
Rosaria Butterfield: https://rosariabutterfield.com
Dr. Andrew Van Mol: https://cmda.org/author/andrevanmol/
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome once again everyone out there to the Conversations That Matter Podcast. I am your |
| 0:17.0 | host John Harris. As always, we have two guests with me today that I'm very |
| 0:21.0 | excited to introduce to you and I'm really excited actually for the topic we're going to be talking about because it's something that is frankly it's a little outside of my expertise but this is something that I think a lot of Christians are grappling with and probably |
| 0:36.0 | going to be grappling with more in the coming years whether in the United States or Canada or other |
| 0:41.1 | Western countries and so we have with us today Rosario Butterfield with us, |
| 0:47.0 | and she has a website Rosariobutterfield.com |
| 0:50.0 | where you can find out more about her writing |
| 0:52.0 | and she's a pastor's wife, she's a homeschool mom, |
| 0:54.4 | she's a former university professor. |
| 0:56.4 | I appreciate you being on with us. |
| 0:58.1 | And then Dr. Andre Van Mall is also with us. |
| 1:02.4 | And he is very involved with Christian organizations |
| 1:06.4 | in shining the light of biblical truth and just common sense on areas of |
| 1:10.4 | sexuality and gender you can find out more about his work at CMBA.org. |
| 1:15.0 | You can actually go to YouTube and just type in his name |
| 1:19.0 | and you're going to come up with a lot of stuff |
| 1:21.0 | on really the topic we're going to be talking about today. So I appreciate you joining us as well, Dr. |
| 1:27.1 | bin mall. |
| 1:28.1 | Thank you for having me. |
| 1:29.7 | So I want to start off if we can with you Rosaria and the document that you released recently, what was it, |
| 1:39.6 | three weeks ago maybe? And you had something to say about your previous position on |
| 1:46.6 | conversion therapy and I just want to say before I let you talk about it I was so |
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