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Understanding And Curbing Generative AI’s Energy Consumption

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🗓️ 21 February 2024

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

As the environmental costs of tools like ChatGPT and DALL-E mount, governments are demanding more clarity from tech companies.

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0:00.0

AI-powered chatbots and image generators can feel like magic, but that magic comes at a steep environmental cost.

0:10.0

They're trying to promote AI as this transformative technology and they're glossing over the fact that there's some trade-offs here.

0:17.2

It's Wednesday, February 21st and after consulting with the relevant experts, it's Science Friday. I'm Scifra producer D Peter Schmidt.

0:27.0

Researchers are learning that the data centers used to power AI models like chat GPT

0:31.0

need an enormous amount of not just electricity, but fresh water to keep everything

0:36.2

running smoothly.

0:37.7

And the industry shows no signs of slowing down, as Open AI is seeking to raise $7 trillion to reshape the global semiconductor industry for AI chip production.

0:48.0

Dr. Jesse Dodge, research scientist at the Allen Institute for AI, joins Ira to talk about how much energy and water these

0:54.8

data centers are using and what regulations these companies could face.

0:58.8

Welcome to Science Friday.

1:00.8

Hi, thanks for having me.

1:02.1

You're welcome. Okay, so why do these AI models use so much energy?

1:07.0

Today AI systems are run on supercomputers. When I started doing AI research more than a decade ago, I was able to run most of the

1:16.9

training and production of AI systems on my laptop, but what we've seen over the last decade is this dramatic increase in computational

1:25.8

cost that's led to today's environment where most of the AI that you will interact

1:31.1

with online is run in a data center and primarily run on

1:36.1

GPUs. These GPUs are often very specialized hardware that are pretty

1:41.7

energy intensive.

1:43.0

So people don't often think about it,

1:45.0

but when you type a query to a chatbot or

1:48.0

search for something online,

1:50.0

that now has a significant energy consumption and therefore environmental impact.

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