Welcome to Back from the Abyss. I'm Dr. Craig Hickok. One quick announcement before today's show.

In addition to my regular clinical practice and making this podcast, I also do some clinical consultation and supervision for psychiatrists and psychiatric MPs.

And I do have a couple of openings right now, so if you're interested in supervision consultation, please contact me through my website.

In today's episode, I sit down with Dr. Jeremy Sharp, a psychologist, the director of the Colorado Center for Assessment and Counseling, and host of the podcast, The Testing Psychologist.

And Jeremy and I put our heads together to try to better understand and explain ADD, ADHD.

This episode is likely of more relevance to clinicians, but I think there's interesting

material in here for all you listeners, and I hope you enjoy it.

One of the most requested topics for season four from the listeners poll was ADD, ADHD,

and a number of therapists and even

my patients too have said, why don't you do something kind of deep dive on ADD, ADHD? And I

immediately thought it has to be with you because I think we bring some interesting Venn diagram

elements that you're a neuropsychologist, you're testing psychologist, you have a podcast

called the testing psychologist. You know, I regularly send people to you and you're a neuropsychologist, you're testing psychologist, you have a podcast called

the testing psychologist. I regularly send people to you and your practice for testing, and

obviously I come from psychiatry, so we both are deeply interested in work with ADHD,

but I think from different perspectives, so I have many, many things I want to learn from you today.

Likewise.

This will be good.

So why don't we just start with how, Jeremy, how you think, as a neuropsychologist,

how you think about ADD, ADHD, even the fact that we can put those acronyms together,

you know, as if they're one thing.

I mean, do you think about these as a syndrome, as a big tent, as gobbledy gook that some

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