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Understanding a Taxing Distinction

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🗓️ 19 April 2012

⏱️ 5 minutes

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Thursday, April 19th, 2012.

0:05.0

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:07.0

When you want to tax millionaires, what is it exactly that you want to do?

0:11.0

Tax their assets or income? It's an important distinction because

0:15.2

high income does not automatically mean you're wealthy. The failure to make that

0:19.7

distinction clear has some real ramifications for the tax debate going on now in

0:24.1

Washington. Swami I R the research fellow at the Cato Institute's comments.

0:28.8

As we learn economics at high school what is income? Income according to that is the value that you

0:35.8

add by a particular act of production, right? So the different kinds of things that

0:41.6

add value are salaries and wages, there are rents, and there are profits of companies.

0:47.0

So all true income as defined by economics is either wages, rents or profits.

0:53.0

All kinds of other things may appear to be income they are not.

0:56.0

An ex-wife might think that alimony is income.

0:59.0

It comes to her every month, but it's not income because there's no value addition. It's just a transfer from her ex-husband.

1:06.0

A kid sitting in college getting $500 a month from his father, he may regard that as income. It doesn't income, it's just a transfer from the father to him.

1:16.0

So when we look at some of the millionaires who are earning enormous sums from dividends,

1:22.0

now you know, when a corporation earns profits that is certainly income.

1:29.7

But when out of that part of it is then distributed as a dividend, that distribution of the

1:36.6

dividend is a transfer.

1:38.6

In principle, it's no different from a father sending pocket money to his son. So when people start taxing

1:46.0

the dividends or regarding the dividends as income you have to say what this is

1:51.0

not income this is only a transfer.

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