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The Michael Steele Podcast

Understanding 1619 Means Understanding Our Country: With Nikole Hannah-Jones

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Michael Steele speaks with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones about The 1619 Project, what motivated her to write it, its purpose and its pushback. The pair also discuss the notion of patriotism, how politicians like Trump and DeSantis have responded to her work, and how being honest about our country's history can help it live up to its highest ideals.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

In late August 1619 a ship arrived in the British colony of Virginia bearing a cargo of

0:05.9

20 to 30 enslaved people from Africa.

0:09.4

Their arrival led to the barbaric and unprecedented system of American chattel slavery that would last

0:15.6

for the next 250 years. This is sometimes referred to as the country's original sin,

0:22.9

but it is more than that. It is also the source of so much that still defines the United States.

0:29.6

It is our origin story. It is where we begin to define what it is and what it means to be an

0:39.6

American. Today I'm joined by Nicole Hannah Jones here on the podcast. She is a Pulitzer prize

0:46.0

winning reporter covering racial injustice for the New York Times magazine and she is the creator

0:52.4

of the 1619 project which seeks to reframe United States history by placing the consequences

1:00.8

of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the center of this US historical narrative.

1:09.7

So join me and Nicole for an incredible conversation about the 1619 project. It's purpose and

1:19.0

it's pushback right after this on the Michael Steel podcast. This episode is brought to you by Slack.

1:26.9

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1:50.1

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2:01.5

Well folks as I said coming in the door that this conversation is one that I have been looking

2:07.6

forward to as I've watched this young woman transform the nature of the discussion around race,

2:17.2

politics and the idea of the American dream all of it. So it is a real real pleasure for me to

2:25.2

welcome to the podcast Nicole Hannah Jones. Welcome. So good to see you. Thank you you as well.

2:32.0

Thanks for having me. Oh absolutely. So let's just get right into it. You've got this wonderful

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