You know, I'm glad that you recognized that al-Qaeda is a threat because a few months ago

when you were asked what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia.

Not al-Qaeda, you said Russia.

In the 1980s or now, calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War

has been over for 20 years.

I'm Sarah Kenzier, the author of the bestsellers, the view from flyover country and hiding in

plain sight, and of the upcoming book They New, How a Culture of Conspiracy

Keeps America Complacent, which is out on September 13th and available for preorder now.

I'm Andrea Chalupa, a journalist and filmmaker and the writer and producer of the Journalistic

Thriller, Mr. Jones, about Stalin's genocide famine in Ukraine, a movie that the Kremlin

literally does not want you to see because they keep shutting down screenings.

And this is Gaslit Nation, a podcast covering corruption in the United States and rising

autocracy around the world.

Our opening clip was Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential

election debate where Romney, who was a terrible candidate for that entire election, just

a laughably bad, non-person politician stuffed into a suit candidate, came out of nowhere

and had a rare, intriguing odd moment at the time where he called out Russia.

And as a Ukrainian American, even I found it odd, it came out of left field and he turned

out to be vindicated.

Not because of anything Mitt Romney did or by his very nature, his track record ever since

then has been pathetic, right?

Coaching up to Trump after Trump stole the election in 2016 with the Kremlin's help.

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