Unconditional Love: The Key to Real Change with Richard Rohr & Zach Meerkreebs
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🗓️ 8 May 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
*This episode mentions suicide and may be triggering for some listeners.
This week, we’re diving into something truly transformative—the power of love to change everything. First, we hear from Father Richard Rohr, who shares his lifetime of wisdom about how experiencing deep, unconditional love—not rules or fear—is what really brings about meaningful change.
Then, Pastor Zach Meerkreebs takes us to Asbury University, where a truly extraordinary event happened in that faith community. He reminds us that following Jesus’ example of humility can open our lives up to amazing possibilities.
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
Past interview: The Power of Love
Upcoming interview: Emily Compango
Center For Action and Contemplation
“For When People Ask” by Rosemary Watola Trommer
Lower: Igniting Spiritual Awakening Through Radical Humility
Interview Quotes:
“‘Don’t let the sun go down on your anger,’ the New Testament says. But that doesn’t say, ‘Don’t be angry.’ Right now there is so much that deserves anger—the wars in our world, how we treat the very ones Jesus told us to love, the little ones, the rejected ones. That comes from an excess of anger and a deficiency of sadness.” - Fr. Richard Rohr
“An experience of infinite, unconditional love—that’s the only thing that changes us.” - Fr. Richard Rohr
“We can’t authentically love one another without experiencing the authentic love of Jesus first.” - Zach Meerkreebs
“Within a couple of days, it had been spread around the world that God was moving on the campus [of Asbury University], and we started having guests from South America and the Middle East and Asia to come and encounter God at our chapel service.” - Zach Meerkreebs
“Humility really is a foundation in what’s countercultural, captivating, convicting and compelling of the Christian walk.” - Zach Meerkreebs
“If you read Scripture and you study the person of Jesus, humility is the most captivating thing about Him.” - Zach Meerkreebs
“Because I understand who I am and I understand who God is, that drives me to pray. I want to spend time with Him, because I know my life is better when I spend time with Him and when I listen to His voice.” - Zach Meerkreebs
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| 0:54.4 | An experience of infinite, unconditional love. |
| 0:59.2 | That's what changes the prophets, |
| 1:01.8 | and that's the only thing that changes us. |
| 1:04.8 | Not threats of hell, |
| 1:07.3 | not promises of reward after we die, but an experience in this world of the touch of unconditional love. |
| 1:18.5 | Welcome to the Jesus Calling podcast. This week, we're diving into something truly transformative, |
| 1:24.4 | the power of love to change everything. First we hear from Father Richard Roar, |
| 1:28.9 | who shares his lifetime of wisdom about how experiencing deep, unconditional love, not rules or |
| 1:34.8 | fear, is what really brings about meaningful change. Then, Pastor Zach Meerkrebes takes us to |
| 1:41.3 | Asbury University, where a truly extraordinary event happened in that |
| 1:45.3 | faith community. He reminds us that following Jesus' example of humility can open our lives |
| 1:50.8 | up to amazing possibilities. Let's begin with Father Roar. |
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