We make long-term decisions based on short-term feelings.

The short-term feeling is, oh my God, this guy is my soulmate.

And then I ask everybody, think of the person you have the most chemistry within your entire life.

Think of the three people you have the most in chemistry within your entire life.

And they mentally imagine that person.

Where's that guy now? Did you end up with him? Did it work out well? Did it have a happy ending?

The answer is always no. Welcome to the unspeakable podcast, a place for conversations the way we often

used to have them. Unfiltered, unapologetic. I'd say unrecorded, but two out of three is not bad.

I'm Megan Dowm. My guest this week is dating coach Evan Mark Katz. That's right, a dating coach.

I know that may seem a little odd, given that so far on this show I've been interviewing writers, scientists, academics, and the

like. But given that the purpose of this podcast is to talk about things in ways that might

really enhance our understanding, if only we were allowed to talk about them that way, I thought

Evan and his approach to his work fit the bill. Evan only coaches women looking for men,

and he has been called a personal trainer for smart, strong,

successful women, meaning a personal dating trainer. He is the author of four books, and he's the

creator of Love You, a six-month video course that helps women understand men and find love

and has some 12,000 graduates. Evan spoke with me back in May from his home in Los Angeles.

On that note, I will say, and I think this is the last time I'm going to have to say this,

this was an early recording for this podcast, back when the sound was a little bit analogish.

So one day these interviews will be the hip and cool ones, the vinyl ones, the basement

tapes, so enjoy them while you can. I began our interview by asking Evan what kind of dating

coach he was and why he sometimes takes a tough love approach to his clients.

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