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UNCHAINED: Why the Crypto Industry Is So Upset About the IRS’ Proposed New Tax Reporting Rules

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4.8689 Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

A pair of crypto industry tax experts describe the problems with the tax agency’s new reporting proposals and suggest alternatives.  

The IRS sparked a storm of controversy when it released proposed new rules for crypto transaction reporting earlier this year. The new rules seek to define who is considered a broker, what types of transactions need to get reported, and the kinds of digital assets that need to be included, but many in the industry consider them overly broad and ultimately unworkable. 

Lawrence Zlatkin, VP of Tax at Coinbase, and Shehan Chandrasekera, Head of Tax Strategy at tax software firm CoinTracker, discuss the crypto industry’s specific objections to the proposed new rules, and what might be a better way forward. They also delve into how the regulations would apply to stablecoins and NFTs, potential blockchain-based solutions for the reporting requirements, and what the likely outlook and timeline for the proposals to come into effect are.  

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Show highlights |  

  • What the newly proposed IRS regulations around crypto are and when they are likely to go into effect
  • What entities qualify as a broker and why this may pose a problem
  • What the implications for the industry are if these regulations were passed
  • The number of additional reports the IRS is expecting to receive if these regulations are adopted
  • How the regulations would apply to stablecoins and NFTs
  • What the five types of brokers are under the proposed regulations and the three types that they exclude, according to Shehan
  • The unprecedented amount of comments submitted
  • What suggestions Coinbase and CoinTracker have in mind for better tax regulation
  • Why Lawrence thinks that DeFi exchanges should be treated the same as centralized ones
  • Whether people should have privacy concerns about the new proposals
  • What some blockchain-based solutions for tax reporting, such as attestation tokens
  • What are the next steps for the IRS's proposed regulation are
  • How long it will take to actually implement these regulations


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Guests | 

Shehan Chandrasekera, Head of Tax Strategy at CoinTracker

Lawrence Zlatkin, VP of Tax at Coinbase

Links |  

Previous coverage of Unchained on crypto taxes, with appearances from Shehan and Lawrence:

Everything You Need to Know About Filing Your 2022 Crypto Taxes

Your 2021 Crypto Taxes: How to Handle NFTs, DAOs, Airdrops and More

Everything You Need to Know About Your 2020 Crypto Taxes 

Why You Shouldn’t Trust Crypto Exchange Reports for Your Taxes

The IRS Is Cracking Down on Crypto Taxes: What You Need to Know 

Could the Bank Secrecy Act Harm Crypto? Coin Center Thinks So

Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (117th Congress)


Proposed rule:

IRS proposed rule text: Gross Proceeds and Basis Reporting by Brokers and Determination of Amount Realized and Basis for Digital Asset Transactions

U.S. Department of the Treasury, IRS Release Proposed Regulations on Sales and Exchanges of Digital Assets by Brokers

CoinDesk: How the Crypto Industry Responded to the IRS Proposed Broker Rule

Twitter thread from Ji Kim of the Crypto Council for Innovation 

CNBC: President Joe Biden to sign the bipartisan infrastructure bill⁠ into law—here's how crypto investors will be impacted

IRS issues guidance, seeks comments on nonfungible tokens

Coinbase first comment letter

Coinbase second comment letter

CoinTracker comment letter


Unchained Podcast is Produced by Laura Shin Media, LLC.  Distributed by CoinDesk. Senior Producer is Michele Musso and Executive Producer is Jared Schwartz. 

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Well, my own view is that these rules as proposed are unadministrable.

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So I think we've argued

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that there should be a more measured approach.

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