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UNCHAINED: What's a Fair Value for Crypto Networks Like BTC, ETH and SOL?

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🗓️ 18 October 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Valuing decentralized networks such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana is tricky. In this episode, Jon Charbonneau breaks down the key factors that determine the value of blockchain networks and how Layer 2s impact these valuations. How do you determine the value of decentralized networks like Bitcoin, Ethereum, or Solana? It’s not as straightforward as traditional investments. Jon Charbonneau, general partner at crypto investment firm DBA, joins Unchained after writing a paper that dives deep into the complexities of valuing blockchain networks. He explains why applying traditional equity models to networks such as Bitcoin falls short, how tax inefficiencies in staking rewards impact valuations, and whether Layer 2 solutions like Optimism and Arbitrum are helping or hurting the long-term value of Layer 1 blockchains. Also, he looks at the big question—are these networks sustainable in the long run? Show highlights: What motivated Jon to write the paper What the main points of the paper are Why tax inefficiencies in staking rewards are a critical factor in valuing decentralized networks and how they differ from traditional corporate taxes What makes valuing networks tricky, as Jon explains how proof-of-work vs. proof-of-stake systems differ from traditional equity models How he thinks about valuing Layer 2s and whether they are parasitic to the L1 Whether blockchains are sustainable in the long term Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Mantle’s FBTC Guest Jon Charbonneau, co-founder and General Partner at DBA L1 & L2 Token Value Capture Links Previous coverage of Unchained on this topic: How to Figure Out Whether a Crypto Token Is Worth Its Trading Price ETH Is Down Bad, While Layer 2s Are Ripping. Are L2s Parasitic to Ethereum? Are Layer 2s Parasitic to Ethereum and ETH as an Asset? Are L2s ‘Parasitic’? Analysis Shows Ethereum Only Gets a Tiny Percentage of Fees Ether-Bitcoin Ratio Is at Multi-Year Lows, But It’s Just ‘Temporary’ and an ‘Opportunity’ Unchained Podcast is Produced by Laura Shin Media, LLC. Distributed by CoinDesk. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

Thanks for listening to Unchained, your no-hype resource for all things crypto on the CoinDesk Podcast Network.

0:06.5

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0:11.7

Plus, check out all our content on our website, Unchained Crypto.com.

0:17.1

And so in large part, that is what Ethereum is kind of making a bet with kind of all these L2s, at least from an economic perspective implicitly, is that it's worth this tradeoff.

0:25.5

Like we are giving up some amount of cash flows that's going to go to these L2s, but we're going to end up with, you know, a million chains that are all ETH denominated.

0:32.2

And ETH looks like this more store value commodity like currency like asset that's kind of used everywhere.

0:40.7

Everyone. or store value commodity like currency like asset that's kind of used everywhere. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Unchained, your no hype resource for all things crypto. I'm your host,

0:45.2

Laura Shin, author of The Cryptopians. I started covering crypto nine years ago and as the senior

0:50.2

editor of Forbes was the first mainstream meter reporter to stick over crypto currency full time.

0:57.6

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Today's guest is John Charbonneau, co-founder of DBA. Welcome, John.

1:33.0

Hey, how's it going. Thanks for having me on.

1:38.3

You just came out with a paper about how to value tokens for both layer ones and layer twos. Why did you feel compelled to write this paper?

1:42.4

Yeah. So it was somewhat of a successor to like a post

1:45.8

that I had written probably about a year and a half ago at this point on just kind of talking

1:50.7

through basic L1 economics. And I would say kind of the impetus for this post was I would have hoped

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