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🗓️ 5 January 2024
⏱️ 36 minutes
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As we head into what’s expected to be the home stretch for an SEC approval, venture capitalist Spencer Bogart gives his take on the most recent news.
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The past few days have been a busy stretch in the run-up to a potential spot Bitcoin ETF approval by the SEC. Goldman Sachs was revealed as a possible authorized participant (AP) for BlackRock and Grayscale’s offerings, the SEC met with representatives of major stock exchanges, and a report skeptical of an imminent SEC approval likely caused a 7% decline in Bitcoin. Spencer Bogart, general partner at venture capital firm Blockchain Capital, joined Unchained to break down what all of these events mean, as well as discuss who the likely winners will be among ETF issuers, the impact of a spot bitcoin ETF on companies such as MicroStrategy and Coinbase, and how a spot ETF will affect Bitcoin futures ETFs and leveraged crypto ETFs.
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Spencer Bogart, General Partner at Blockchain Capital
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Previous coverage of Unchained on spot Bitcoin ETFs:
Why the SEC May Want Cash Creation of Spot Bitcoin ETFs
Why It Looks Like BlackRock Could Win America’s First Spot Bitcoin ETF
Why a Spot Bitcoin ETF Will Probably Launch No Later Than January 10
How Much Money Will Flow Into Bitcoin ETFs? Here’s One Projection
Why a Spot Bitcoin ETF Will Probably Launch No Later Than January 10
Why It Looks Like BlackRock Could Win America’s First Spot Bitcoin ETF
The Chopping Block: Are We Back? The ‘Low IQ’ Response to the Potential Spot Bitcoin ETF
Matrixport report
Why the SEC will REJECT Bitcoin Spot ETFs again
Jihan Wu’s tweet defending the analyst
Unchained: Why Did Bitcoin's Price Dip as ETF Approval Nears?
Market participants:
Unchained: Goldman Sachs Could Take Vital Role in BlackRock, Grayscale Spot Bitcoin ETFs: Report
The Block: Nasdaq to meet with SEC today to discuss spot bitcoin ETFs: Source
Reuters: BlackRock, VanEck among asset managers that submitted updated filings for spot bitcoin ETF
CoinDesk: BlackRock, Valkyrie Name Authorized Participants Including JPMorgan for Bitcoin ETF
8-As
The Block: Fidelity, Grayscale filing 8-A forms show progress for spot bitcoin ETF applications
Fees
Fidelity set their fee to .39%
Invesco/Galaxy chose to waive fees
Grayscale:
Unchained: DCG CEO Silbert, President Murphy Exit Grayscale Board
Learn more:
Unchained:
Bitcoin ETFs Explained: What Are They & How Do They Work?
Why The Spot Bitcoin ETF Is a Big Deal
Deciding on Bitcoin: Should New Investors Jump In Now or Wait for an ETF?
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1:06.2 | And I think that they'll undoubtedly be a nice tailwind for Coinbase, right? They are the custodian for the vast majority of filings. I think that they'll undoubtedly be a nice tailwind for Coinbase, right? |
1:11.0 | They are the custodian for the vast majority of filings. |
1:14.5 | I think they're absolutely going to benefit from it. |
1:17.4 | And presumably, they'll be the primary trading venue for the authorized participants |
1:20.6 | that, again, are arbitraging between the price of underlying Bitcoin and the price of the |
1:24.9 | ETF itself. |
1:25.7 | So that will also drive additional trading |
1:28.1 | volume to the exchange in addition to the custody fees. |
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