Welcome to another podcast by Inside Carolina.com, the independent voice of UNC Sports,

your home for Tar Heel football, basketball, and recruiting.

This is John Siegley here with Don Callahan for the UNC Football Recruiting podcast.

Don, the weather's kind of terrible outside, but that's not going to stop us from talking some UNC football recruiting.

And to get this one started, we're kind of going to do this in a little bit of a different format.

We're going to try to make this a little bit more of just a back and forth conversation. So, you know, just to kind of get this one started off, Don, what do you feel like

talking about? I think the, I guess the elephant in the room is it? Or maybe it's a couple

elephants in the room are the pair of commitments, UNC, at it towards the end of last week since our last time of

you and I talking. The one we kind of anticipated a little bit, you know, more or less. The other one,

I don't want to say, came out of nowhere, but, I mean, I just ask you, I mean, when you saw

that, you saw Inside Carolina report that Nick Full Wilder had verbally committed to North

Carolina. What was your first thoughts on it? Well, I was actually a little bit surprised that

he committed at this time. I thought that Carolina was his leader coming out of his visit,

just given what he said. Carolina didn't really have that, like there wasn't that one particular school that I felt

you could kind of steal him away.

It wasn't like there was like an Alabama or an LSU or one of those just super traditional

power schools that you kind of worry about. And, you know,

they're the ones that the kid might wait until basically signing day to decide. But I was

surprised that he went ahead and pulled the trigger now. I wasn't anticipating it. I mean,

what were you hearing like from your sources? I mean, you posted the story in South Carolina that the visit did go well,

but I didn't get the sense that really anyone was anticipating him to go ahead and just commit.

Yeah, just to take a step back for those who haven't been following it.

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