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Nobody Should Believe Me

Unbridged interview with Ethen Shapiro

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.23.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with Ethen Shapiro, lead attorney for John Hopkins All Childrens Hospital. Shapiro offers shocking insights into the trial and the media coverage of the Kowalski case, as well as what’s next for the defense team.   We are hard at work on season 4, stay tuned and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.   *** Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com   Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266  Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop  Buy Andrea’s books here.  Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here.  *** Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello it's Andrea. Today we are bringing you a bonus episode. This is our unabridged interview with

0:07.0

Ethan Shapiro, who was one of the lead attorneys for Johns Hopkins All Children's in the Kawalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's

0:17.5

lawsuit.

0:18.7

That is still playing out.

0:22.2

So we spoke to Ethan when we traveled to Florida to interview both

0:26.7

him and Dr. Sally Smith. This was shortly after Thanksgiving so just a couple of

0:31.5

weeks after the verdict and a lot has happened since then so we are going to be bringing him back on the show to give us a bit of an update about what's happened since and what to expect as this whole thing

0:44.3

continues to play out. In the meantime, enjoy this interview with Ethan Shapiro.

0:49.9

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1:06.0

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1:09.6

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1:24.8

I wanted to get the kids off the sofa and stop watching TV.

1:28.4

So I searched rainy day activities on Tik-Tock.

1:31.8

There were loads of hacks on there, but the kids really liked making a bird feeder.

1:36.0

It's amazing what you can do with a milk carton and a handful of seeds.

1:40.0

We hung it outside the window and the birds loved it almost as much as the kids

1:44.4

Who knew a bird box could be this entertaining? It starts on Tik-Tok

1:51.4

Um, okay Okay. Okay.

1:54.0

Okay.

1:55.0

Hi, Ethan.

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