Hey everyone. Welcome to that triathlon life podcast. I'm Eric LaGerstrom.

I'm Paula Finley. I'm Nick Goldston.

You have stumbled across or returned to our triathlon podcast. We do love triathlon. We also love all swimming, all biking, all running.

We're going to talk a little bit about my experience our good friend, Heather Jackson at the Unbound

XL, which is gravel cycling, if you do not know. Uh, but then we're going to do what we normally

do, get into questions, uh, which is how we keep this show rolling. So questions about triathlon and

sometimes relationships. We've been doing relationships lately, which is insane. I am a professional athlete. Paula is a professional athlete. Nick is not a professional athlete. He's just, he loves sports so much. And he brings a cool perspective to this podcast. What was that hand signal, Nick? Welcome. That was meant for your eyes only, Paula. Yeah, if this was video, we'd be blurring that out. Unless you pay the right amount of money, then you can see the video.

TTF after dark.

Eric, are you about to race Unbound XL next year with 32-inch wheels?

What's the deal?

Wow.

I don't even know if we want to open the whole can of 32-inch wheel thing.

I guess that's what it takes.

I have been intrigued.

I do think if I were to gravel race, it would have to be pretty extreme long sort of a thing

because what I personally love about gravel cycling is a little bit of that, like,

stoic alone experience versus if you watch the ex-l,

the non-XL, the regular Unbound 200 and all the Lifetime series.

It's like a freaking bike race on dirt with dust or mud or whatever.

You're around with like 300 other people.

I kind of like just going out and being in the woods by myself.

Is this the kind of race do you think that Paula could actually do well at? Like how technical is it? How... Oh, come on, Nick. Is that a yes or a no? I can't tell. That's a... You're diminishing my abilities. Wait, why? Is this a race that Paula?

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