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Unbelievable? Debating animal suffering and God - Michael Murray vs Phil Harper

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 10 October 2014

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Christian Philosopher Michael Murray wrote a book in 2008 making a defence of God in the face of millennia of animal suffering. He presents his arguments to atheist Phil Harper (aka Skydivephil). They also discuss the contentious issue of whether animals experience pain differently to humans, after William Lane Craig ignited a debate on the subject after quoting Michael Murray's work in a debate. MP3 of this show http://media.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/6821081e-913a-4789-ae1e-00b10730ad17.mp3 For Michael Murray's response on William Lane Craig's blog http://www.reasonablefaith.org/animal-pain-re-visited For Michael Murray's book Nature Red in Tooth and Claw http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0199596328> For "Skydivephil's "animal suffering" videos on YouTube http://youtu.be/mLSwRcvX72M & http://youtu.be/sKuEbbDi-tQ For more faith debates visit www.premierchristianradio.com/unbelievable Join the conversation: Facebook and Twitter Get the MP3 podcast of Unbelievable? http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes

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regulator good afternoon and welcome along I'm Justin Justin Brawley, your host for Unbelievable, between now and 4 o'clock as part of Faith explored.

0:37.3

Every Saturday afternoon I'm joined by guest from a variety of different perspectives who talk about faith,

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life, belief, apologetics, the scriptures, history,

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philosophy, science, you name it.

0:49.0

We cover it on this program.

0:51.1

And we've got a really interesting edition of the program coming up today. As we look at the question of animal

0:55.9

suffering and I'll be introducing my guests on that topic in just a moment's time

1:00.7

well if you're listening later on in today's schedule, you'll be hearing the profile

1:05.4

between four and five.

1:07.1

Kishkandaya is the subject of today's interview and he's going to be talking about his recent

1:11.9

transition to the London School of Theology where he's become the new principal

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and he's going to be talking about his life and faith and what an interesting faith journey he's had.

1:21.0

So listen out for that between four and five on the profile today.

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Don't forget that unbelievable is available to listen back to. If you'd like to

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catch up on past shows including last week's on the Orthodox Church, then do go to

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