When we put prayers to end extreme poverty into practice, there's no going back.

Yes, thank you Isaac. I was just about to get on to that.

You see when...

When we are trained in new skills, we can provide for ourselves.

Can I carry on? We can grow our own

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Good afternoon. It's Saturday, it's 2.30 in the afternoon. That means it's time for unbelievable here on Premier Christian radio.

My thanks to all those who have gone on before me. And if you want to keep listening this Saturday afternoon to Premier, you'll be able to hear Dave and BNex from 4 o'clock here on the station.

But whether you're listening live this Saturday or via podcast or online, you're welcome along along as we have another discussion between a

Christian and a non-Christian on the show that gets them talking.

That's right and today my great pleasure to welcome Timothy Keller into the studio.

If you haven't heard of him before, Tim is the pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York.

A fascinating story there of that church and how it's grown to many

thousands in attendance every weekend. But Tim has been answering the

questions of skeptical New Yorkers for about 20 years or so now and he put it all together in a of

Sceptical New Yorkers for about 20 years or so now and he put it all together in a book called The Reason for God.

It's available through your local Christian bookstore and it's an excellent read.

He's going to be in discussion with Norman

backcrack over whether we really do have good reason for believing in God. And

Norman, an atheist, is going to be putting some of his hardest questions to

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