Unbelievable? 6 Nov 2010 - Ex-Gay and Gay-Affirming approaches to homosexuality

Unbelievable?

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 23 June 2014

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Both guests on today's show are Christians, both are gay, and both run ministries supporting Christians of homosexual orientation. However a very different ethos underpins each. The True Freedom Trust, run by Jonathan Berry believes that Christians with homosexual orientation should abstain from sexual practise. Courage, run by Jeremy Marks accepts committed same-sex relationships between Christians. Courage adopted its new position in 2001. Jeremy explains why, and Jonathan responds. Sharing their own stories, they debate the best way of supporting gay Christians and why they differ on Biblical teachings about homosexuality For True Freedom Trust http://www.truefreedomtrust.co.uk/ For Courage http://www.courage.org.uk/ For more discussions visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast or Via Itunes If you enjoyed this discussion you may also want to hear: Unbelievable? 29 May 2010 - This first show addresses the main scriptural passages that relate to homosexuality. Unbelievable? 5 Jun 2010 - Homosexuality and the Church - This second show addresses whether the church is homophobic in its attitude towards gay people Join the debate at the "Unbelievable?" group of the Premier Community http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable

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