When we put prayers to end extreme poverty into practice, there's no going back.

Yes, thank you Isaac. I was just about to get on to that.

You see when...

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Good afternoon. Thank you for joining me here on Premier Christian Radio and my thanks to Megan for Premier's I choose.

Don't forget that Dave and Beer here next with Hip Rock UK, that's between 4 and 6 o'clock.

But between now and then you're with me, Justin Briley, and we've got unbelievable.

It's the time when a Christian and a non-Christian join me to talk about some aspect of faith or belief.

You're unbelievable.

And today we're going to be hearing from atheist John W Loftus.

He runs a blog debunking Christianity,

but he's got a very interesting story behind him because he was a very

evangelical Christian he was a pastor he was an evangelist we'll be hearing his full story

how he lost his faith and why and as he chats about that

we're going to be having contributions from Peter May he's a ex-GP or retired

GP and also a keen apologist he's keen to defend the Christian faith and he's

going to be tackling John on some of the beliefs that he's rejected and seeing where we get to. It's the first in a two-part program so

we'll be continuing to chat to both these gentlemen at the same time next week.

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