Unbelievable? 31 Jul 2010 - Presuppositional apologetic proof of God

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🗓️ 23 June 2014

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"Arguing against God's existence is on a par with arguing against air, breathing it all the while". So says the website of Sye TenBrugencatte who believes that Christians need to rediscover the power of 'presuppositional apologetics'. Our use of the laws of logic, mathematics, science and morality cannot be accounted for unless we believe in a God who guarantees our perceptions and reasoning is trustworthy in the first place. Paul Baird describes himself as a "freethinker". He debates whether he is obliged to believe in God when faced by Sye who argues that atheists are effectively "suppressing" the truth of God that is self evident - as described in Romans Ch 1. Sye's website is http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/ Paul Baird and Sye TenBruggencate are both online members of the "Unbelievable?" Group of the Premier Community and will be continuing to discuss there. Check it out at http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable For more Christian/non Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast at http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes If you enjoyed this programme you may also enjoy: Unbelievable? 13 Jun 2009 The Moral Argument For God - Atheist Paul Orton & Christian David Robertson Unbelievable? 1 Nov 2008 - Atheist Bus Campaign: Its creator Ariane Sherine, Humanist Hanne Stinson and Christian Paul Woolley debate

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0:30.0	Work of a long, it's Saturday afternoon here on Premier Christian Radio. I'm your host Justin Brawley for the next hour and a half.
0:36.5	This is the program that brings Christians and non-Christians together every week. It's called Unbelievable.
0:41.8	And it's a talking shop for those who have an interest in faith,
0:45.0	the big questions of life and today we're looking at something which well will explain what it means but we're going to call it by its technical term to start off with
0:54.4	presuppositional apologetics.
0:57.6	You're unbelievable!
0:59.6	What on earth does that mean, you may say.
1:02.0	Well, we're going to be finding out with the help of
1:03.8	Saiten Bruggenkates who is on the phone from Canada on my show today. He's a Christian and he says that we can show that
1:11.5	by accepting the laws of logic, mathematics, science and
1:15.3	morality there's no option left but to believe that there is a God. Well Paul Baird
1:21.0	is my atheist joining on the program today.
1:23.4	Well, he describes himself as more as a free thinker,
1:26.0	and we'll find out why, as he engages in conversation
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