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You see when...

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Good afternoon. Welcome long to the program. My thanks to David Aldous and Passages of Life and do hope you can stay with us here on Premier for the rest of the afternoon.

Don't forget Moiwa is here with his guide to the world. That's from 3.30 this afternoon.

You're with me Justin Brawley from between now and then.

This is unbelievable.

You're unbelievable.

And we're going to be looking today at the new atheism. Not sure what that is? Well think of

Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchin, Sam Harris, all writers who have made it their job

recently to explain why they passionately disbelieve in Christianity.

In fact, why they think it's a very bad thing altogether.

We're going to be asking why there's been this upsurge really in reaction against

faith and certainly been making the news a lot hasn't it helping us to do that

Barry Duke editor of the free thinker that's a regular atheist periodical,

and we're also going to be meeting David Marshall who's written a book called The Truth

Behind the New Atheism.

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