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Unabridged: We’re in a Gender Straitjacket with Emily St. James

The Stacks

Traci Thomas

Literature, Society & Culture, Books, Arts

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

*Patreon- and Substack-only bonus episode teaser, click here for the full episode*

In this episode of The Stacks Unabridged, we’re joined by author and critic Emily St. James to discuss her new book, Woodworking. We explore the recent evolution of anti-trans legislation, what it tells us about the current political moment, and trans rep in pop culture. Plus, Emily offers us her entries into the trans literary canon.

You can find everything we discuss on today's show on The Stacks' website:

https://www.thestackspodcast.com/unabridged/2025/3/21/tsu-44-emily-st-james


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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, it's Tracy Thomas, host of the Stacks here with another bonus episode of

0:05.4

The Stacks Unabridged for you. Today, I am joined by cultural critic, TV writer, journalist,

0:11.9

and now debut novelist, Emily St. James, whose brand new book, Woodworking is out now.

0:18.6

Today, Emily and I talk about trans rights, trans representation, and

0:23.4

anti-trans rhetoric in both pop culture and politics. Emily shares her thoughts on how we got here,

0:30.9

where we're headed, and together we craft a trans pop culture canon from books to TV, film, and more. Okay, now it's time for my

0:42.2

conversation with Emily St. James. All right, everybody, Stacks unabridged.

0:58.7

Here we are, bonus episode for March.

1:00.9

I am really excited today because I am joined by a brand new novelist, but a tried and true

1:07.6

cultural critic, pop culture writer, Emily St. James. Emily, welcome to the Stax.

1:14.9

Hi. It's wonderful to be here. I'm so happy to have you. I think we should, let's start with your

1:20.4

novel because I want to make sure we give your novel a little bit of time before we start digging into

1:24.4

pop culture. It's called woodworking. And why don't you tell people in

1:28.9

about 30 seconds or so what the book is about? Woodworking is about a trans woman who comes out

1:35.1

to herself at the age of 35, but she lives in Mitchell, South Dakota, a town of 15,000 people.

1:40.6

So the only other trans person she knows is a 17-year-old girl who's one of her high school

1:45.7

students. It's about the unlikely friendship that sort of emerges from there, and then also how

1:51.8

they both get roped into a local election for a state senate seat. It takes place in the

1:58.1

buildup to the 2016 election. So dramatic irony, dramatic irony, dramatic irony, dramatic irony.

2:04.4

We love a literary convention.

2:06.5

And you're from South Dakota.

2:08.4

I am.

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