We're here with another episode of The Stacks Unabridged. I'm so excited I am joined by

Jamila Map and Erica Dickerson, the women behind the Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast,

and the brand new book, A Good Mom's Guide to Making Bad Choices. Ladies, welcome to The Stacks.

Thank you. I'm so happy to have you all have some black moms on the show. What a joy.

Oh my gosh. I'm more happy to be the black moms on the show. I mean, we've had black moms,

but we've never talked about being black moms. I should say that. Usually it's like authors who are

also, but to get to talk about this with you all is really exciting for me as a black mom myself.

But we'll start where we always start, which is in about 30 seconds or so. Will you all just

tell us about the book? 30 seconds. Wow. The book is about womanhood. It's about motherhood. I

think Erica and I wrote this book because it's the book that we wish we had and we were pregnant

and we were considering being moms. We like to call it like the honest, the honest preparation

for motherhood. A lot of books, you know, a lot of mom books specifically. I'm kind of tell you how

to care for your children and your child or your baby and how to swaddle them and how to do this.

And this is a book that shows you how to care for yourself and kind of gives you steps and tools

of like things that you can do to kind of stay in tune with yourself during that very crazy

process of being pregnant and giving birth. Yeah. I loved one of the things you say very late in

the book is that you're as old as a mother as your kid is a child. And I just love that because

it had never occurred to me that way. And I'd love for you to say a little bit more about this idea

of like your your mother age being the age of your first kid. Yeah. You know, that idea dawned on

me a few years ago because you know, I was in the midst of mom guilt and like feeling like I don't

have some of the tools to to have certain conversations with my child even because I wasn't given

those tools a as a child. But also I'm just I'm an inexperienced mother. Yeah. I've never actually

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