from WNYC Studios. I'm Brian Lerer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Tuesday, May 2nd.

We'll talk now about getting deported and the rare instance of getting undeported from the United States.

Maybe you heard the interesting and in many ways heartwarming story by WNYC Public Safety

correspondent Matt Katz about a man named Lorenzo Charles, who was brought here legally

at six years old by his mother from Guyana, grew up as an American, but was deported back to

Guyana to a country and culture he didn't know after being convicted of attempted robbery

when he was 16 and attempted burglary when he was 20, claimed he was innocent.

And recently, 20 years later, after decisions by the Brooklyn DA's office and the federal government, Lorenzo Charles got undeported.

And he is back in what he considers his real hometown, Crown Heights, Brooklyn.

So we'll meet Lorenzo Charles live during this segment, but we'll also talk more generally about who gets deported

and for what and who deserves undeportation with WNYC Public Safety Correspondent Matt Katz.

And another key player in Lorenzo Charles's story, Lindsay Nash, co-director of the Immigration Justice

Clinic at the Cardozoa Law School here in the city. Hi, Matt, and Professor Nash, co-director of the Immigration Justice Clinic at the Cardoza Law School here in the city.

Hi, Matt, and Professor Nash, welcome to the live radio side of WNYC.

Hi, Brian.

Hi, thanks for having us.

Matt, what put you on to this story in the first place, the story of Lorenzo as an individual or the concept of undeportation?

Yeah, I heard from Lindsay Nash's clinic over at Cardoza Law School.

They flagged this case for me because for many years I covered immigration.

I covered immigration detention.

I had heard of isolated incidents of people being deported and then allowed back into the country. Maybe there was a mistake

with their paperwork. Maybe they filed an appeal that hadn't fully gone through yet. Very rare,

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