Welcome to the Outlier Health Podcast and just as you were clicking record I realized that I'm drinking coffee and have brown teeth.

That's good. I have to learn when we're on video. It's also a great segue because we're talking about ultra processed food today.

And I wonder, coffee is like one of the most processed foods out there. I hear, I don't know enough about it do you worry about that do you know anything about that?

I definitely don't worry about my teeth being brown because I drink it all the time in the mornings

when I'm on these shows and after brushing my teeth not before so I've

embraced the brown teeth it just comes with old age right if you I think the worst

thing to do be trying to whiten your teeth with I'm always tempted and then I'm

thinking I don't want that stuff in my mouth whatever whatever they use the white and teeth so that's probably way worse than coffee be my guess as far as you p f goes I think coffee wouldn't be considered u p f and there's probably a lot of gray area of foods actually. We'll get to it in a little bit this breakdown, but I think it's just like a process. One of these foods has been consumed for hundreds of years and you know before the technology existed to ultra process things.

Nowadays maybe they do different things I wouldn't be I mean bulletproof coffee that's

ultra process they're adding something to that in a different way but I think good old regular coffee I don't know I don't think that's I don't think it's in the UPS category.

In theory if it's ground coffee beans you'd have to imagine that it gets around the

system the classification system which we'll get to, which has that profit motive.

So, you know, Bulletproof coffee definitely fits in there.

I will say though, one of the most wild things and that has made me think very differently about what goes into my mouth is that the mouth is like the start of your microbiome and all those bacteria you know have the same sort of

photo communication with the rest of your body and so I'm with you I think the the

teeth whitening stuff and the florides and all the rest like I'm I haven't quite gotten the baking soda my wife is not as weird as I am so we have a little bit of a you know disconnect there I would probably be you know not using any

teeth paste if it was up to me but you know what I okay on this topic I didn't mean to go deeply into this but I forgot that I had a I was on a Dr.

Greger turmeric scrub with baking soap and I don't know how it worked because the

turmeric stains that's really yellow teeth right And I don't know how it works because the termic stains

That's really yellow teeth.

Right, I mean it makes it think terminally yellow.

Somehow with teeth it doesn't.

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