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The Documentary Podcast

Ukrainians at war and their hopes for peace

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

While US President Donald Trump spearheads efforts to halt the conflict in Ukraine, Russian drones and missiles continue to kill and injure civilians, invaders control around a fifth of the country, and many Ukrainians fear that any peace agreement could result in a permanent loss of territory. Away from the international diplomacy, we wanted to give a sense of how life has changed in Ukraine over the past three and a half years of war. We bring together three soldiers who share their experiences of the frontline. We also hear from Ukrainians forced to leave the country and bring together three women dealing with the trauma of the conflict. Sasha tells us. “Everybody has lost someone or something – be it a home, friend or someone from their closest family.” This episode of The Documentary, comes to you from BBC OS Conversations, bringing together people from around the world to discuss how major news stories are affecting their lives.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, this is Andrew Peach. Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service. This time in BBC OS conversations, we hear from Ukrainians sharing their experiences of war and hopes for peace.

0:22.1

Over the past week or so, events that could shape the future of Ukraine and potentially

0:27.1

end the fighting have been taking place a long way from the front line.

0:31.6

The summit between US President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska

0:36.9

was billed as a vital step

0:39.0

towards peace. But despite warm words, no ceasefire was agreed. A few days later, President Trump

0:45.9

welcomed Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky to Washington alongside European leaders.

0:51.8

That was followed by a NATO meeting on Wednesday, and as we record this program

0:56.1

on Friday lunchtime in London, suggestions of a summit between the Ukrainian leader and the Russian

1:01.5

president. Meanwhile, in Ukraine, Russian drones and missiles continue to kill and injure civilians.

1:09.4

Russian invaders control around a fifth of the country,

1:12.7

and many Ukrainians fear that any peace agreement could result in a permanent loss of territory.

1:18.2

Away from the international diplomacy, we wanted to give you a sense of how life has changed in

1:22.9

Ukraine over the past three and a half years. In our conversations, we'll hear from soldiers, Ukrainians living abroad,

1:30.4

and in a moment, three women in the country.

1:33.1

Let's start, though, with these messages from Miroslava in Leviv in the west of Ukraine

1:37.4

and first Victoria in the capital, Kiev.

1:40.5

Almost every day I live under the shalien, almost every day that that's missiles and there is no shelter in my residential building.

1:48.8

So me and my boyfriend, we just, almost every night we sleep on the ground floor because it's too scary to sleep in the basement.

1:55.6

Because if missiles hits the building, it's just going to crash.

1:59.8

I suffer from depression and panic attacks

2:04.2

sometimes. I'm trying to deal with it because I have to work and to leave somehow. But yes,

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