I'm Francis Dernley, and this is Ukraine the latest.

Today, as Kiev captures its first North Korean soldiers alive, we return to the pivotal question

of the Russian economy's fragility, and later speak to Ukrainian actors who have recreated their own experience of the war on stage.

bravery takes you through the most unimaginable hardships to finally reward you with victory.

The first duty of my government is security and defence, to make clear our unshakable support of NATO and with our allies towards Ukraine.

Nobody's going to break us. We're strong. We're strong. Where Ukraine is.

It's Monday, the 13th of January, two years and 318 days since the full-scale invasion began.

And today I'm joined by the Telegraph's Associate Editor for Defence, Dominic Nichols,

and steering the interview segment, narrative podcast producer Adli Pojeman Ponte.

But first, to Dom, for the latest from the battlefield.

Well, hi, Francis. Hello, everybody.

So there's a lot going on.

So let's do it chronologically.

Let's go back to Saturday.

Russia said on Saturday that its air defences had intercepted or destroyed.

Don't the difference between the two when you're talking about air defence.

85 Ukrainian drones launched overnight Friday, Saturday by Ukraine.

Moscow said 31 drones were destroyed over the Black Sea, 16 over Vornage and Krasnodar

cry.

Krasnodar is the first bit of Russia.

If you go over the Kirst Bridge heading east, that's the first bit of Russia

you hit. Another 14 over the Sea of Azov, four over Belgarod Oblast. That borders Ukraine to the

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