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Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Ukrainian Journalist “Shocked” by New Poll

Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Useful Idiots, LLC

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.54.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Click here for the full interview with Lev Golinkin: https://usefulidiots.locals.com/post/4318784/ukrainian-journalist-shocked-by-new-poll The poll: https://voxukraine.org/en/the-ability-of-ukrainians-to-distinguish-messages-of-russian-propaganda-results-of-public-opinion-research For $5 a month, become a Useful Idiot! Get extended interviews, Thursday Throwdowns, and chat live with Katie and Aaron in the Absurd Arena at http://usefulidiots.locals.com Find us on Substack at http://usefulidiots.substack.com Watch this week's Thursday Throwdown: Anderson Cooper upset by Cornel West's morality https://usefulidiots.locals.com/post/4311701/anderson-cooper-upset-by-cornel-wests-morality Join the Absurd Arena live chat with Katie and Aaron every Tuesday at 12pm est at https://usefulidiots.substack.com/chat “This poll is earth-shattering.” “I wonder if any media will pick it up.” “Of course not!” Ukrainian-America journalist and author Lev Golinkin joined the show this week to discuss on a new poll that flips everything we’ve been told about “real Ukrainians.” And before you write off the poll as Russian propaganda, check out who conducted it: not Moscow, with its memes of deception to trick Americans, and not Useful Idiots, those secret Putin agents, but Vox! Now the poll: A shocking 43% of respondents in Ukraine disagreed with the statement “Nazi and/or neo-Nazi ideology is not widespread in Ukraine.” Guess what percent of respondents agreed with the statement “The West is using Ukraine for its own purposes in the war against Russia.” Check out the interview to find out. But you’ll see that Ukraine is not the monolith of pro-war nationalists that our media claims they are. As Lev goes through the responses of the poll, each one shockingly truthful about the split of what Ukrainians actually believe, he has a dark conclusion about the US government which refuses to look at the data: “These people who have control over our future know nothing about us.” But Vox Ukraine’s conclusion (we give props to them for even publishing the results at all), is very different. “The conducted survey revealed the overall ability of Ukrainians to differentiate narratives of Russian propaganda. In this case, the active promotion of counter-narratives is necessary.” So now it isn’t “listen to Ukrainians” but “these Ukrainians are duped by Russian propaganda and we need to teach the troglodytes that they like the war.” So, don’t listen to them. Join Lev, Katie, and Aaron as we analyze a poll that surely won’t be reported by the New York Times or any other corporate warriors, and watch the extended interview where Lev shares the truth about the real people of the Donbas, the war crimes committed by the West and Russia (“Any war crime you can name that has been committed by one side has been committed by the other”), and the one difference between Wagner neo-Nazis and Azov neo-Nazis: “The Wagner neo-Nazis are not put on MSNBC. The Wagner neo-Nazis are not being trained and armed by the United States. The Wagner neo-Nazis are not being invited to Congress.” It’s an enlightening interview with a Ukrainian voice ignored by the mainstream. Check it out, share the poll, and watch the extended interview with Lev Golinkin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Our Sponsors: * Check out Chilipad and use my code sleep.me/USEFUL for a great deal: https://sleep.me * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/USEFUL for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com * Check out Quince and use my code quince.com/useful for a great deal: https://www.quince.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Hello, and welcome to UseFlits. I'm one of your host Katie Halper. And I am the second

0:09.8

host, Aaron Matte. How's it going, Katie? I'm good, you. I'm well. You're back. You're

0:15.5

back in New York City. Yeah, I mean, spiritually, I'm always in a flow state, you know, so who

0:21.7

knows where I am, spiritually, but physically, yeah, I'm physically right. Yeah. It's still

0:27.4

my birthday month. So thanks, everyone, for keeping me in your thoughts and prayers. I can

0:32.4

feel the love. It's a month long party. It is a month long party. Yeah. I'm going to put

0:37.2

someone on blast right now. When I say someone, I'm going to put an org on blast right

0:40.7

now. Ready? People will love this because a lot of our viewers hate this organization

0:44.4

anyway. Okay. I don't know if I'm technically a member anymore. I may have laps, but they

0:50.3

are a little right wing for my taste, but I have been historically a member of DSA Democratic

0:55.1

Socialist of America. And they had a beach day. And for whatever reason, my only like friends

1:02.9

that came to the beach party were friends who had kids. And so I had two friends and they're

1:08.7

adorable two kids and their partners meet me at the beach. But DSA, which is very ironic

1:14.8

because they are socialist organization and they're about the people. And I assume they care

1:20.0

about accessibility, but they had their beach day at this beach called Fort Tilden, which

1:26.5

is in Rockaway. My friend who was there with her wife and her two kids was like, okay, Katie,

1:34.0

we're at Jacob Rees Beach. We're not going to Fort Tilden Beach because we have to walk

1:37.6

a mile through tall grass to get to this other beach. So basically what happened is that

1:44.1

me and my friends, we didn't join DSA at their beach because it was not very accessible

1:49.2

and it was very hard to get to if you have two babies. So I'm kind of calling out DSA for

1:54.9

choosing to have a beach day at a place that requires a lot of schlepping. I have to disagree

2:02.1

with you Katie. Unfortunately, Tilden, if you're looking for a beach in New York City, I mean,

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