Ukrainian Historian Exposes the Real Zelensky
Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté
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🗓️ 21 February 2025
⏱️ 56 minutes
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“Every single day, we are losing territories. Every single day, we are losing people. Every single day, our children in Ukraine are suffering from these rocket attacks, drone attacks. And nobody knows what happened next.”
Dr. Marta Havryshko is a Ukrainian historian and professor at Clark University. She has watched as the proxy war between the United States and Russia has destroyed her country.
“Those who want to continue this disaster and this hell,” she says, calling out the proxy warriors and those who have criticized her for seeking peace, “are you ready to sacrifice your life? Are you ready to sacrifice the life of your brother, son, and other loved ones for this crazy idea that victory can be achieved?”
Ukraine, she believes, was doomed from the beginning of the war.
“Russia is bigger, Russia has a lot of resources, Russia has powerful friends. I can't even understand who in their right mind actually can believe that Ukraine can change the situation on the front line and retake all those territories.”
Marta has watched as her family members were forced to fight and die for this proxy war. She shows us footage of the Ukrainian army chasing and kidnapping men as a method of forced conscription as the fighting population wanes.
“Who will retake those territories? Many of my friends, many of my relatives are in the army now. They suffer from suicidal thoughts. They suffer from this desperation, frustration. But nobody can replace them because we have this problem with mobilization, we are running out of manpower.”
And she explains who Ukrainians are blaming: “That's why the popularity of Zelensky nowadays is really low. Ukraine under Zelensky is not a democracy.”
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00:00 Intro
01:43 Chuck Schumer: Influencer
08:22 Trump's cutting Medicaid
14:58 Fighting Trump with Dance
17:25 NYT covers for a Hate Crime
20:22 Marta Havryshko interview
21:53 Will Trump Make Peace in Ukraine?
31:48 Why she voted for Zelensky in 2019
35:29 WaPo's Scantily Clad War Propaganda
40:08 Death Threats for Criticizing Nazis
45:18 Zelensky, the Azov Battalion, and Corporate Media
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| 1:12.9 | bonus content. Today we'll be looking at Ukraine and what looks to be a sea change in U.S. policy. |
| 1:21.0 | Trump abandoning Zelensky and the proxy war that comes with it. And there's been, of course, |
| 1:30.2 | a meltdown amongst the proxy war class, which has been riding high for three years, funneling tens of billions of dollars into |
| 1:35.2 | this horrible conflict, using Ukrainian bodies to sacrifice for their goal of bleeding Russia. |
| 1:41.1 | And it looks like, you know, again, you never know with Donald Trump, but it looks like |
| 1:45.4 | that project is coming to an end. |
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