Ukrainecast: What is Putin thinking?
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BBC
4.3 • 6.6K Ratings
🗓️ 28 February 2022
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
As fighting continues in Ukraine, Victoria Derbyshire and Gabriel Gatehouse look at how the crisis is being reflected in Russia. They’re joined by Angus Roxburgh, who spent three years as a consultant to the Kremlin, to discuss whether the people closest to Putin will stay loyal to him though this conflict. And the BBC’s Liza Fokht in Moscow has been asking Russians what they think about the invasion.
Back in Ukraine, we catch up with Max, whose son and wife were injured when a missile hit their home in Kyiv last week.
This episode of Ukrainecast was made by Estelle Doyle with Natalie Ktena, Phil Marzouk and Alix Pickles. The studio director is Emma Crowe. The assistant editor is Alison Gee and the editor is Jonathan Aspinwall.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds Music Radio Podcasts |
| 0:04.8 | Hello, I'm going to hand you straight over to Victoria and Gabriel for another episode |
| 0:08.7 | of Ukraine cast as the air raid sirens are heard across Kiev yet again. |
| 0:14.5 | And President Zelensky signs Ukraine up to join the EU and they're going to be catching |
| 0:19.2 | up with Max to find out how his family are doing after they heard from him at the weekend. |
| 0:24.8 | And you'll be catching up with me for a normal episode of newscasts from tomorrow. |
| 0:31.8 | Hello, it's day five since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began and here's what we're talking |
| 0:41.8 | about today. |
| 0:42.8 | Obviously the curfew in the capital Kiev was lifted this morning and people are emerging |
| 0:47.3 | from underground where they've been living to avoid the shelling and the missile strikes. |
| 0:53.0 | And here's Ksenia who spoke to Radio Force today, program this morning. |
| 0:56.4 | They've spent more than 36 hours on this underground non-stop without the possibility to go outside |
| 1:06.0 | and right now I'm at my home and finally I even can't describe what I feel. |
| 1:13.9 | It's just I'm happy to stay alive and safe and just to have this possibility to see my |
| 1:19.7 | splendid and beautiful Kiev like and to get some grasp of fresh air and see the sun and |
| 1:27.5 | all of these. |
| 1:29.0 | And what I want to know, Vic, is what on earth is going on, not just in Putin's head, |
| 1:34.5 | but in the heads of those around him, those in the Kremlin. |
| 1:38.3 | And I mean all the pictures of carnage coming out from the ground in Ukraine, for me one |
| 1:44.7 | of the most telling pictures is this. |
| 1:47.1 | Let me show it to you. |
| 1:48.1 | Okay. |
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