Ukraine

Trump, Inc.

WNYC Studios

Don, Trump, News, Business, Jared, Ivanka, Jr, Politics, Business News, Government, Eric

4.6 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2019

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Why Ukraine? It’s the question we at Trump, Inc. have been asking ourselves for over a year. Donald Trump has taken money from Ukrainian oligarchs. Paul Manafort went to prison because of work he did in Ukraine. Michael Cohen has ties to the country. And then there’s Rudy Giuliani, who has been making appearances there for over a decade. Ilya Marritz went to Kiev to meet with the anti-corruption fighters who are being directly targeted by Rudy Giuliani and his associates. And we untangle the new ways that corruption in Ukraine is commingling with corruption in the United States.

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0:00.0	Okay, so should I read it first and then I could talk to you already?
0:05.0	Yeah, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really.
0:07.0	Date line, Kiev, Wednesday, September 25th, just after 5pm, local time.
0:13.0	I'm at the offices of the Not for Profit Anti-Corruption Action Center,
0:18.0	ANTAC, and with Darya Kallanyuk, ANTAC's co-founder and executive director.
0:22.0	Oh, that's crazy, man.
0:24.0	The White House has just released a transcript, detailed notes of a call
0:29.0	between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
0:33.0	Hi, Mr. Zelensky, I'm going to give you a call and I'm also going to have a turn in your own call
0:36.0	and we'll get to the bottom of the feed.
0:39.0	Ah!
0:41.0	On that call, Trump asks Zelensky to, quote,
0:44.0	do us a favor, investigate his political rival, Joe Biden.
0:48.0	With a bright orange beanbag chair and a staff of mostly young people,
0:54.0	ANTAC has the feel of a small start-up.
0:57.0	Everyone here, not just Darya, is furiously digesting the document.
1:02.0	So, is that okay for the President of the United States to have Attorney General of the United States,
1:08.0	to call the President of Ukraine to discuss investigation?
1:13.0	Is that okay?
1:14.0	Well, I'm not a lawyer, but I believe you are a lawyer.
1:18.0	It is actually very astonishing to me to see that something like that
1:26.0	is happening in the United States from which we are trying to learn how to make democracy.
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