Ukraine: Who is winning?
The Briefing Room
BBC
4.8 • 731 Ratings
🗓️ 21 July 2022
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
The war in Ukraine is about to enter its sixth month. The cost of Russia’s invasion has been enormous: millions of refugees; thousands of dead soldiers; thousands more dead civilians; and billions of dollars’ worth of physical damage. It’s the most consequential military conflict for a generation.
This week the Briefing Room investigates what’s happening now on the ground and whether either side is close to victory or collapse. Joining David Aaronovitch are:
Nina Kuryata, Ukrainian journalist with Tortoise Media Shashank Joshi, Defence Editor at The Economist Samantha de Bendern, Associate Fellow in the Russia and Eurasia Programme at Chatham House Sir Lawrence Freedman, Emeritus Professor of War Studies at King’s College, London
Producers: Tim Mansel, Kirsteen Knight and Simon Watts. Editor: Richard Vadon. Studio Manager: Neil Churchill. Production co-ordinators: Siobhan Reed & Helena Warwick-Cross
PHOTO CREDIT: Miguel Medina/AFP via Getty Images
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:06.5 | Welcome to the briefing room with me, David Aronovich. |
| 0:09.5 | The briefing room is the think spot in the metaverse, |
| 0:12.4 | where in 28 minutes you and I get to understand a big issue |
| 0:15.8 | with the help of the top experts on the subject. |
| 0:19.3 | This week, the war in Ukraine, is either side winning and how can we tell? |
| 0:24.6 | The war in Ukraine is about to enter its sixth month. |
| 0:30.6 | The cost of Russia's invasion has been enormous. |
| 0:33.6 | Millions of refugees, thousands of dead soldiers, thousands more dead civilians, |
| 0:38.5 | and billions of dollars worth of physical damage. |
| 0:41.8 | It's the most consequential military conflict of my generation |
| 0:45.3 | and seemingly the most difficult to predict. |
| 0:48.7 | But let's try. |
| 0:50.1 | This week, I want to know what's happening on the ground |
| 0:52.7 | and whether either side is close to victory or collapse. |
| 0:57.1 | Step inside the briefing room and together we'll find out. |
| 1:03.2 | Let's recall first how this began and how it progressed. |
| 1:08.1 | Nina Corriata is the Ukraine expert at Tortoise Media. She used to be the head of the BBC's |
| 1:13.5 | Ukrainian service in Kiev. Nina Curiata, on February 24th, and you were in Ukraine at the time, |
| 1:20.3 | the Russians invaded. Can you remind listeners what were Russia's initial tactics? |
| 1:26.7 | I would describe it as shocking the whole country, |
| 1:30.5 | because they started bombing and shelling all Ukraine |
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