I'm Gregory Warner, this is Rough Translation.

Our episode this week comes out Friday.

It's a collaboration.

So in the meantime, we're just going to revisit a story from last season that feels even

more relevant today.

It's about a country where fake news might have triggered a real war.

But it's also about how life with fake facts makes it harder for us to talk to each other.

Makes us think differently about the divisions in our own country and what we can hope to

do about them.

Hello, Ruslan.

Ruslan is a journalist.

Ruslan, they need to go.

In Kiev, Ukraine, and he spent thousands of hours watching Russian TV trying to sort

the real from the fake.

My family members, they are complaining that, oh, you watch Russian television all the

time.

They lie all the time and we have to listen to all these lies about Ukraine.

I'd first heard about Ruslan's project three years ago when I was in Ukraine for NPR.

One of the stories I was reporting was about how fake news from Russia was streaming over

the border into Ukraine.

I though was not using the words fake news in 2014.

Americans were not using that phrase.

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