Ukraine: Under the Counter

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🗓️ 20 January 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In the weeks following the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, a young doctor in Germany sees that abortion pills are urgently needed in Ukraine. And she wants to help. But getting the drugs into the country means going through Poland, which has some of the strictest abortion laws in Europe. So, she gets creative. What unfolds is a high-stakes, covert-operation run by a group of strangers. With everyone deciding: who to trust? In collaboration with NPR’s Rough Translation (https://zpr.io/9UpCwb2Smjzw), we find out what happened. Part 1 of 2 episodes.Special thanks to Wojciech Oleksiak, Katy Lee, Maria Hlazunova, Valeria Fokina, Sara Furxhi, Noel King, Robert Krulwich and Sana Krasikov, and our homies over at Rough Translation. Thanks also to Micah Loewinger and Laura Griffin. Illustrations came from Oksana Drachkovska. And thank you to the many sources and experts we interviewed who asked to remain anonymous. Episode Credits:Guest hosted by - Gregory Warner and Molly WebsterReported by - Katz LaszloProduced by - Daniel Girma and Tessa PaoliMixer - Gilly Moonwith mixing help from - Jeremy BloomFact-checking by - Marisa Robertson-Textorand Edited by - Brenna Farrell CITATIONS: Videos Watch Deutsche Welle’s Abortion in Europe documentary (https://zpr.io/YHctj4bZQwHM). Podcasts Listen to Eleanor MacDowell’s A Sense of Quietness (https://zpr.io/eHhcHusxrhfE) on the BBC. Listen to NPR’s Joanna Kakissis’s story This Secretive Network Helps Ukranian Refugees Find Abortions in Poland (https://zpr.io/LsQw9V6ByfFg). Our reporter, Katz Laszlo, reports on European current affairs and reproductive health, and produces for The Europeans (https://zpr.io/sHAvrvqU2m8t) podcast, which features stories across the continent, including in Ukraine. Our collaborators, NPR’s Rough Translation (https://zpr.io/9UpCwb2Smjzw) Our newsletter comes out every Wednesday. It includes short essays, recommendations, and details about other ways to interact with the show. Sign up (https://radiolab.org/newsletter)!Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab (https://members.radiolab.org/) today.Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @radiolab, and share your thoughts with us by emailing radiolab@wnyc.org. Leadership support for Radiolab’s science programming is provided by the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation, Science Sandbox, a Simons Foundation Initiative, and the John Templeton Foundation. Foundational support for Radiolab was provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.

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0:00.0	Hey, just a heads up, this episode deals with some sensitive issues like sexual violence
0:06.6	and war.
0:07.6	If that's not something you're ready for right now or you're listening with some younger
0:12.2	listeners, you might decide to skip this one.
0:15.3	Wait, you're listening to radio lab from W and Y.
0:26.6	This is radio lab, I'm Molly Webster sitting in for Lulu and Lutth.
0:35.9	Today, we have something super special for you.
0:39.0	It's a collaboration with our friends at the NPR show Rough Translation.
0:44.1	When we heard about the story, we were like, we have to be a part of this.
0:49.3	And so I joined up with Gregory Warner, the host of Rough Translation, to report and edit
0:54.8	and argue and travel so that we could do the story together and then share it with all
0:59.6	of you.
1:00.6	Ready?
1:01.6	Ready.
1:02.6	So here we go.
1:03.6	Hey, do you listening to Rough Translate?
1:04.6	Wow, man, this is Rough Translation.
1:07.4	I'm Gregory Warner and that voice is...
1:10.1	Molly Webster.
1:11.1	Molly Webster of Radio Lab is here with me in the studio because we have been working on
1:15.0	this collaboration.
1:16.0	It's been months in the making that kind of sits at the intersection of both our shows.
	...

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