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Rough Translation

Ukraine: Under The Counter

Rough Translation

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Society & Culture, Social Sciences, News, News Commentary, Science

4.87.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

One weekend. An amateur smuggling operation. A wartime mission. The story, in collaboration with Radiolab.

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0:00.0

Ready? Ready. Hey, do listening to Rough Translate. Wow, man, this is Rough Translation.

0:06.7

I'm Gregory Warner and that voice is Molly. Molly Webster. Molly Webster of Radio Lab is here

0:12.3

with me in the studio because we have been working on this collaboration. It's been months

0:16.7

in the making that kind of sits at the intersection of both our shows. Yeah. But I won't say

0:22.7

anything more about that. We'll find out why. Just a heads up. This episode does deal with some

0:28.7

sensitive issues, including sexual violence and war. And it comes to us from a colleague

0:34.0

that both of us have worked with. A colleague who was telling us a number of stories about Ukraine

0:39.1

and one of them just left out to us. It starts with this woman, if Gennia, she's Ukrainian and she

0:45.9

moved back to Ukraine two days after the full-scale invasion. So late February. She moved to Ukraine.

0:53.2

Yeah. And within days of being on the ground in Ukraine, she had set up an NGO. And the NGO was

0:58.1

all about getting supplies to Ukrainians during the war. A lot of times it had to do with medical

1:04.6

supplies. And so she would use Facebook. Here's the list of meds or generator or whatever.

1:09.8

And people was like, yeah, let's help. And she'd throw out these requests and she would just see

1:14.8

like donations would come rolling in. And it was amazing to her. And then one day.

1:20.4

I made a post. We're looking for money to buy body bags. We just understood that it's not

1:27.1

enough body bags in Ukraine. For Ukrainian soldiers. For anyone. Every human being have to be

1:34.4

passed in a normal way. But this post, it's like a two or three two and health likes. It actually

1:39.8

only gets like five likes and two sad tear emojis. And not enough donations. It's like people didn't

1:48.4

donate just because they didn't want to be associated with body bags. Yeah, it's like

1:53.3

you can't donate a body bag or even think about a body bag donation without thinking, oh God,

2:01.4

we're out of body bags. Like, you know, if someone's asking for 200 body bags, that's 200 dead.

2:06.3

But somebody need to do this. That's life.

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