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Robert Wright's Nonzero

Ukraine’s War, Putin’s Worldview (Robert Wright & Leonid Ragozin)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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1:35 What MSM missed about Carlsons' Putin interview 14:20 Putin’s litany of grievances against the West 22:19 Russia gets the upper hand in Ukraine 30:02 Why Zelensky hasn’t paved the way for peace talks 37:02 Putin’s mafia-inspired approach to negotiations 45:47 Do most Russians support the war? 49:49 Why Zelensky fired his popular top general 54:00 Heading to Overtime

Leonid's article in Al Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/2/12/putin-is-ready-for-talks-on-ukraine-but-on-his-own-terms

Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Leonid Ragozin (Rest of World, West of Providence, Lonely Planet). Recorded February 14, 2024.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods

Overtime titles:

0:00 An approaching Russia-NATO war? 3:39 Why the Gaza war is a godsend for Putin 13:32 Does Putin really prefer Trump over Biden? 22:52 The point of Putin’s long historical monologue

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.

0:33.6

Hello, Leonid.

0:35.9

Hello, both.

0:37.0

Thank you for having me.

0:38.6

Well, thank you for making the time.

0:40.3

How are you doing?

0:41.5

I'm doing very well.

0:43.3

Good.

0:43.7

Let me introduce us.

0:44.5

I'm Robert Wright, publisher with Non-Zero Newsletter.

0:46.7

This is the Non-Zero podcast.

0:49.2

You are Leonid Rigozen, a journalist based in Latvia, although you're from Russia originally,

0:55.8

written for a number of places, BBC The Guardian, lately for Al Jazeera.

1:01.1

In fact, you've written a piece just within the last few days about this Tucker Carlson

1:07.6

interview of Vladimir Putin.

1:08.9

I definitely want to talk about that because your take is a little different from some of the takes we saw in the West. I'm really looking forward to

1:18.0

this conversation because I have frankly been kind of distracted by the Middle East and haven't been

1:23.4

paying as much attention to the Ukraine-Russia situation as I had been before October 7th.

1:30.8

And so I'm hoping you can kind of catch me up on the state of play there.

1:35.9

Why don't we start out, though, with this interview, this Tucker Carlson interview of Putin?

1:43.1

First of all, how would you say the interview was kind of processed in the West to the extent that you could tell?

1:52.4

I mean, I assume, you know, I know you're on Twitter and people should follow you, by the way.

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