Hello and welcome to the G0 World podcast.

This is where you'll find extended versions of my interviews on public television.

I'm Ian Bremmer, and today we are talking about the evolution of the war in Ukraine,

a conflict that is redefined how nations fight and how civilians live.

When Vladimir Putin launched his full-scale invasion in 2022,

tanks rolled across the border, artillery pounded cities, soldiers advanced in columns.

But more than three years later, the war looks very different. The battlefield has shifted

from the ground to the sky. Russia is sending more powerful drones in larger numbers into Ukraine every day.

Putin has reoriented Russia's military and its entire economy to create an industrial drone

powerhouse, eroding Kiev's early advantage.

The threat spilled over into NATO territory in mid-September when Poland used expensive fighter jets to shoot down cheap Russian drones in its airspace,

a dangerous escalation that has European leaders worried that their militaries are losing ground to Moscow's technology advances.

If 20th century warfare was defined by tanks and missiles, Russia's invasion has made clear that the 21st will be about unmanned vehicles.

In the next phase, autonomous, AI-powered swarms.

Here to talk about what this war has become and how drones have changed life on the front lines, as well as in Ukraine's cities.

I'm joined by Christopher Miller, he's chief Ukraine correspondent for the Financial Times,

and he's lived and reported from Ukraine for 15 years.

Let's get to it.

Thank you. Chris Miller, welcome to GZER World. My pleasure.

Thank you for having me.

You've been spending a lot of time more than just about any Western journalists on the

ground in Ukraine, not just since the war has started, but I mean, since the precursors to

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