This is CBS Eye on the World.

Here's John Batchelor.

Ukraine conflict, ceasefire, peace plan, end of the challenge to all of Europe by the Russian Federation and its allies. I welcome Anatole

Levin of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. He's the Eurasian director. And along

with his colleague George Beebe, right now I recommend you all look at a peace plan that Quincy Institute

has very carefully constructed with the understanding

that it's a moving story, but still the major players are on the field.

That would be Europe, the United States, Russia, Ukraine, and the possibility of recovering

economic strength in the immediate future as opposed to the unknowns

of the present standoff along the lines of the Cold War, not just in Ukraine, but up and down

the European eastern borders.

Anatole, a very good evening to you.

Your peace plan is highly practical. I see it immediately as sensible. The conversation turns on several major points. I want to go to Europe first because right now, three European leaders, maybe more, but three I could name, Mr. Starrmer, Mr. Merritts, and Mr. McCrone are contributing to a

dialogue about ending the conflict in Ukraine. You and Mr. Bebe want all of Europe to attend.

Is that credible given the fractiousness we've seen both in the EU and NATO these last years. Good evening to you.

Hello, John. Well, I mean, that's why we also think that America must take the lead and present a

detailed plan. But in the end, Europe will have to be there because Europe, as an incentive to

Russia, will have to lift sanctions, which are largely European, as an incentive to Russia will have to lift sanctions, which are largely European, as an incentive to Ukraine, it will have to commit to massive funds for reconstruction and movement towards membership of the European Union, which is that, that is the most critical thing for the

future of Ukraine, of course, does not depend on the United States. And then Europe will have to

find a compromise over what to do with the 300 billion in seized Russian assets, which we

suggest should be devoted to the reconstruction of Ukraine, but it should be shared

between Ukraine and the Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine, which gives some incentive to Russia

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