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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

Ukraine mineral deal – What it means for Kyiv's fightback

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Ukraine and the US have reached a long-awaited agreement on a deal over American access to Ukrainian mineral resources.  What does this mean for Ukrainian resilience in the fight against Russian invasion – and for a US-Ukraine relationship strained by the arrival of Donald Trump in the White House? Oz Katerji discusses the mineral deal and the economics of the war with Tymofiy Mylovanov, President of the Kyiv School of Economics and former minister of economy for Ukraine. • This episode of This Is Not A Drill is supported by Incogni, the service that keeps your private information safe, protects you from identity theft and keeps your data from being sold. There’s a special offer for This Is Not A Drill listeners – go to Incogni.com/notadrill to get an exclusive 60% off your annual plan. • Support us on Patreon to keep This Is Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this. Written and presented by Oz Katerji. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:26.5

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0:49.6

Kate's just off to work after sleeping in the best bed in the business.

0:53.7

And my word, doesn't she look ready for anything?

0:57.0

Something about her smile is just brighter.

0:59.0

Her eyes seem glintier, and she just feels so much more katia.

1:05.0

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1:16.6

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1:18.4

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1:22.0

Victoria's had a Friday night to remember

1:24.5

but now she's outside in the pouring rain

1:27.4

and what? You are joking I've got no data how are we're going to get home Friday night to remember. But now she's outside in the pouring rain.

1:28.2

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